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thanks dear lady for supporting goodnight • elise. much appreciated. and, as always, enjoy your music. . .
More than welcome , It's a song that touches the heart.....
My name is Trenton and I love your music, I think it would do well in retail networks, please contact me if you are interested in having your music played in Retail Outlets. My email is threeshotspublishing@yahoo.com
Hi Trenton , I sent you an email :)
A year and a half, countless short-lists and charting on Broadjam. Still no return what-so-ever on my investment. I can barely recall ever seeing an opportunity get filled by a Broadjam member. Just short-list, then ages later, provider has listened, thank you very much. Almost ready to let it go the way of our Taxi account.
I would probably have spent near on that by now at a guess.
I'm starting to think that the providers only bother with Broadjam for the financial incentive and don't ever 'really' consider songs on some posts.
are you guys certain, i see a lot of artists accomplishments on here placed with tv/film and adds..two of my songs were selected for cable show licensing, i never got the huge payout commercial deals but those are pretty tough to get, i guess I just have to keep plugging until i get that big pay day!! lol
We've been selected for 'cue sheets' for cable. First couple, turned them down cause they didn't allow us the ability to remove our music in future if we wanted. Fox one recently, but nothing come of being selected. We got asked if we had a filmclip for the particular song, we said no but we could film one if needed. Never heard from them again.
I'm not saying NOBODY benefits on here 3 SP don't get me wrong .. Many do .. But in the opportunities we apply for, very rarely see anyone successful.
hey guys what about commercials, are those easier for independents to get instead of big films? I haven't gotten any yet but i don't want to keep wasting my precious dollars trying if it's highly impossible :(
oh that sounds much better, sounds competitive but more profitable and an easier reach than big film, thanks Todd appreciate it!!!!
How do you find it with Taxi, EOTS? I've been told about that one too, do they let you pay monthly like Broadjam or just a yearly payment? have you had success on that one?
It takes money to make money. The little guys don't stand a chance against the corporations.
So if we don't stand a chance against the huge Corporation why make us pay 5.00 and 10.00 when they know the big payout commercials is just going to go to them. Is it to sell us a dream? so we keep paying hoping to land one and in return keep making broadjam richer and richer? Maybe that's something to think about.
Todd, I agree with face to face meetings, But the "Big Wigs" don't want to take the time to meet someone they don't know and actually give them a shot at being a great talent. I'm not speaking about myself, I'm not near the talent You or a lot of individuals or groups on here are. I think I write good lyrics but so does most everyone on here. I have to have my songs recorded in a studio which is not cheap hence " it takes money to make money. I would rather buy music from artists on broadjam than from a lot of the so called professionals on the radio, but I don't subscribe to credit cards so I am limited on what I can do online.
Therese, Taxi is very similar to the Broadjam except that most of the entries are screen and critiqued by taxi staff members before they ever reach the opportunity provider. The problem I found was that I would receive a critique from a particular taxi staff member, that (regardless of the specifics of the opportunity) would reject you on very flimsy and subjective reasons. Such as for example with some of our lyrics 'When I think of candle, I see serenity and happiness not loss and sadness'. This is fair enough, except that you would then receive the same taxi staff member reviewing you on several other opportunities in the same genre giving the exact same critique. When the staff member has already determined in their mind that they don't like your song, it is very unlikely they are going to forward it for ANY opportunity. So there is no real point in entering it for anything. The 'staff' member is interpreting the opportunity providers request to the best of their understanding, but the reaction to your song would always vary from provider to provider if they were hearing it themselves. With that staff member in the way you often have one person holding the key to all the doors, which is ridiculous.
The only way I see that a process model such as Taxi's could ever work fairly, is if the process was moderated. Several screeners selected a larger list at a lower bar and then have the bands to be forwarded agreed on by all 3 of them. This moderation would eliminate a great deal of subjective bias. I suggested this to Taxi in great depth and all they did was respond to me about how fantastic their screeners were, obviously oblivious to the point I was trying to make that no second hand ear is infallible. The screeners were notorious for completely misinterpreting the meaning behind lyrics. Our lyrics 'I guess you never really lose what was never meant to be, I'm still lost in the middle.' They told me the words 'Lost in the middle' didn't adequately convey the songs theme of loss', completely overlooking that the song was actually about breaking up with someone you are in love with, when you didn't want to, hence 'Lost in the middle'. To be fair they had some very worthwhile and intelligent feedback if you were lucky enough to get a screener with a clue.
ok thanks for that, all excellent advice and information to consider. I'll never give up. I'm choosing my opportunities wisely as I certainly don't have any music finances, all my own money. I also use Music Xray and Sonicbids, both are excellent and cheap. Cheers!
There are big opportunities on Taxi, but the system is flawed. You have to be really lucky to be forwarded. I think I probably submitted 100+ entries over a year and would have only been forwarded around 5 times. Someone has told me that the Broadjam model is slightly flawed too in that opportunity providers receive a percentage on the submission fees for the opportunities they provide. This means theoretically that a music manager could post an opportunity on here and screen entries with no intention of ever submitting them, for no other reason than the monetary value. If it is true that Broadjam is revenue-sharing with the providers, then there should be conditions attached to fielding a successful applicant.
agree. lastly, is there a yearly fee on Taxi or monthly? do the submissions cost money as well?
I've read this thread twice now and am gonna comment. Firstly, Sam you guys are awesome in your own right and will be successful going in the direction you currently are. Sure it may take a little time but you are using the right approach, producers, touring etc. IMHO. You know what grips my shit about BJ - I have never seen a writer be selected for an artist from an opp. The only writers I have seen be successful have done so through their own hard work and perseverence through the usual channels ie publishers, labels etc and not through the opps on here. Which leads me to 2 conclusions, either the songs submitted are not good enough, which I think is bollox having listened to some great songs that would beat the crap outta half the rubbish in the charts these days; or the provider is doing nothing more than profiting from the listings that are released every week anyway, and our desire to succeed. Hence why I don't submit here - I select suitable publishers/labels for the tracks I want and take a chance on them checking me out. So far no money has been made, but I have had a few nibbles on the hook which is promising and doesn't cost me money. Now don't get me wrong, I like the principle of BJ, and I have met some great people who I have collaborated with to great results, and I have improved no end because of their input, critiques etc and my $5 a month is a small price to pay for that - but listings, Nah.
Well said Adam!!
I'm waiting for Roy to weigh in on this thread. Either confirm or correct what I said regarding the opportunity provider responsible for the listing receiving profit-sharing. Unlike Taxi where I removed us altogether from their site I wouldn't do that with Broadjam. But I find that even when I receive and email saying 'ROCK LISTING' I don't even bother reading it any more. I am honestly of the mindset now that the providers for the listing simply pick a few 'favourite' songs from the entries to fulfill their obligation to receive financial incentive and never actually pass anything on.
Very well said Adam, i don't want to believe it because sometimes i am hoping that i would get selected for one of these big time opportunities but when i think of it and i look at the results it seems mute, the more i observe the situation it seem like a money making platform and that's it, however every now and then i will pay 10.00 or 20.00 in hopes that i will land a 30k dollar commercial, you see they got me again lol.. i love this thread :)
You mean it hasn't been already??? LMAO
i'm all about co-writing! bring it on!!
Just saw this; interesting thread. I'd like to humbly submit my perspective (in no particular order). 1) Trust your gut. It's never wrong. It may not lead you the easy way every day, but it will always lead you the right way. 2) Know the difference between your gut, and your brain. The brain likes to make noise; some of it's worth hearing; some not. 3) The climb is always hardest near the top. 4) Eating an elephant is entirely possible provided you eat it one bite at a time. 5) A life spent following your dreams is never wasted. 6) Don't do anything for money (admittedly, easier said than done). Do it because you love it. The money almost always follows provided you followed rules 1-5. If you do it because you love it then money is the vehicle and not the destination. 7) Every "overnight success" took 10 years. Keep working at it. We all have a gift to give the world; don't ever let anyone or anything stand in the way of sharing that gift with as many people as you possibly can.
Thank you for your review of 'Tomorrows begin with you'. I'm at the stage where reviewers seem to like my songs but the productions don't seem up to scratch which is very frustrating. I'm starting to wonder if I need to go to expensive producers/studios to get the product. David
Hi, Contact me (dfsworldwidellc43@gmail.com) Thanks, Helmut Castaneda.
Hi. Thanks for your review of Behind Your Eyes. Much appreciated. All the best from a rainy England Easter day. Matt
Thank you for the great review on our artsit Bianka's song Eyes On You, it is very much appreciated!!!
Your welcome, good luck with your artist. :)
I listened to Biankas song again Eyes On You on one of her websites, and it sounded even better! I would give it an even higher score! :)
Thanks for your kind review of my song: LET MY LOVE IN-1-. I'm the lyricist. Much success to you.
Thank you so very much, lots of success to you also.
Hi, Thanks a lot for your great rewiev of "Warm Up For Life" and also for your helpful tip! Wow!! Your Song "EYES ON YOU" has great potential. Very impressive production! Thanks again
Hello Von, thank you so very much for your complement on Eyes On You, may you have the best of luck in all that you do!!!